it would be so fun and they would also love bill clinton to come by. they love bill clinton, joe biden and i they that gosh, i would so -- and that's why this race isn't over. the door did open after those debates and there are a lot of people getting a second look at what they see from mitt romney, but the question, and this goes back to the earlier point that charlie made about, you know, defining yourself, what is the closing argument then that mitt romney is it making to them, and for many of them, they're saying, ok, things aren't getting all that much better, or they are getting a little bit better, but i don't know that i give obama much credit for it. but if i'm going to switch horses, what do i get in mitt romney and they still haven't really answered that question. >> and one of the things we haven't talked about is sort of which mitt romney. the guy that came by our office, and i don't say that in a pejorative way at all, but the guy that came by running for the u.s. senate in 1994, very bright, analytical mind, you could tell he was sort of